Pyromusical Equipment

Kevin

Registered User
Hello,

If you are searching for a budget (sequence) fireworks controller you can take a look on Merlinfire.
They have many fireing systems for good prices.

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Description:
32 cues
minimal consumption with the external battery 8-16 VDC (not included)
basic 10 programmes included (delays 0.5, 1.0, 1.5,... seconds), 3 user-defined programmes can be downloaded from PC
firing accuracy to 0.001 s in steps 0.01 s
each cue has own LED for displaying of firing or test of connected e-match
FireLine asynchronous input (8-160 VDC input impulse, 80 mA minimum current) - possible connection to all firing systems like e-match
firing impulse 25 VDC, DC/DC changer, no cappacitive discharge
all sequences can blend together (up to 32 sequences in one programme)
each cue can be fired alone with one impulse on FireLine (step&fire)
each sequence is started with one impulse on FireLine (stepped sequences)
on firing place selectable nuber of programme and possible autoinitialize setting (after switch-on in 10 s module initializes firing voltage). The number of selected programme is stored and module remembers the programme after switch-on automatically.


Small plastic case (size 110x155x35 mm), programming through RS232 from PC, easy.

The price for this system is 239,00 €

They have also other products for bigger shows but that costs are +3600 euro

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Kind Regards,
Kevin
 
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propyro2

Registered User
Propyro writes:
What's the gossip on this product. Their website has been updated. Are they
gonna take the firing system market by storm?

I don't have much gossip....but here are some facts.

Yes, we have updated the website and there is more to come there. And of
course we would like to take the market by storm....however there is stiff
and capable competition out there. But we WILL make our mark on the
industry.

We had initially intended to have systems working in the field last spring.
After careful consideration of several additional features, we elected to
continue to test and improve. Those who purchased systems in advance were
polled and every one of them said, we will wait. The benefits of this delay
are numerous. Not the least of which are the new design radios giving firm,
clear data, tested at nearly 1/2 mile. And the "Mesh Technology" that makes
every module a repeater. Another item vastly improved is the
potting/encapsulation material. This silicone plastic material will
completely surround and isolate the interior parts of the modules against
vibration and temperature extremes combining with special heat transfer
mechanisms allowing them to work at -40 to +125 C.

As this is being written, the manufacturer is turning out 6 production
modules. In the next few days they will be full function tested and baring
the unforeseen, nearly 500 modules will be assembled by early Jan. 07. After
encapsulation, 2 more tests remain. A completed assembly full-function test
and another in the environmental chamber at both temperature extremes. All
firelinx system modules are tracked throughout the process from beginning to
end by a barcode ID.

The Command Module is receiving final software and will be ready to go in
Jan. 07.

Likewise the FireFly 4 cue module, will be ready in mid-Jan 07.

Most of this first production run is already sold and will be shipped by
early Feb.

The choreography software is full-featured. You buy one, you get it all.
Not several modules each costing more $ to get more features. The software
is in Beta test and clean-up at this time. Note: you will be able to load
the software on several computers for your convenience. You simply plug the
software key into the one you want to use, to make it work.

The Dragonfly 32 cue module final shape came out better then we had planned.
This system is well beyond the state of the art and that is reflected in the
modules. We will unveil the production modules in January of 07. They will
be functional, durable, versatile, and a thing of beauty. Less then 12
people have seen the final version. They all said....wow!

You can read all about FireLinx at: www.firelinx.us

PS; This system is only the first of several planned projects at FireLinx.
Engineers are already working on the second one and it should be out in Fall
of 07.

"Happiness is the sky in bloom"

J Larry Mattingly
VP Marketing
FireLinx Inc.
 

Studata68

Registered User
Hi,

I am French (excuse me for my bad English writing)

I'm a pyrotechnician in France (over society at the moment) in a little more
For 10 years and I have 26 years old.

I worked with Lacroix-Ruggieri, Regie Fetes Pyrotechnie, and I was
Firework designer for the compagnie Brezac Artifices.
During these experiences I have had the opportunity to approach several Firing System (Traditionnal or with computer) and work with some fireworks compagny (A.Caballer, V.Caballer, Martarello, Parente, Lidu, Zaragozana, Igual, Bugat, ATPM and Vaini)
(At competitions, festivals, partnerships abroad ...), I have had the opportunity approaching systems: Genetec, Vega Elec, Parente, Pyroleda, Fireone, Pyrodigital (Infinity Vision), Pyrodigital (Art-France), Efisy (Caballer), Zaragozana Electronic Firing System Prototype, 'Rafaleur' Groupe F. .. And more traditional systems and sometimes homebuilding (in traditional or XLR or DMX512 etc...)

In recent years I wanted to create my own fireworks compagny in Northern
France, but it was very difficult (administrative problems associated, logistic etc ...)
So I cancelled that idea (for the moment), however, I have taken a close interest in all its Electronic Firing Systems and therefore I think I can partially address some issues that Thread.

Today, there are more and more computerized firing systems on the market more or less reliable, more or less precise, more or less easy to use and more or less cheap, wired or HF, or sometimes a combination of 2 systems.

The budgetary aspect is really in determining your choice in term of Electronic Firing System. But (with the decline of the USD right now, it may be an opportunity to buy American Productts (Fireone, Firelite, Pyrodigital FM4 and FC3 + possibly Fire Magic system if you are manufacturer of fireworks.)

If I had to choose now a modular system and highly efficient, versatile and that I had a good budget, I buy eyes closed a set 'Vicente Caballer EFISY' (Wired / HF) fully compatible with the pyrodigital Infinity Vision Modules.
This product has really become very reliable, fully compatible with the pyrodigital, extremely precise, easy to use, more powerful than the pyrodigital. It's sort pyrodigital the Infinity Vision modernized and upgraded!

However, cheaply, i hesitate too much on a set Pyroleda which is also very good!

The Fireone is economically interesting (especially in terms of wiring cables), but still lacks power and precision. The software is excellent, but the hardware leaves a bit to be desired ...

I like try a pyrodigit I do not know, but I had a few bad echoes.

The Firemaster of Parente is also very interesting, but again I find it not always very precise.

It seems that LT-Pyro is also excellent (I have not tried), but I saw some impressive benefits!

Other systems mentioned above at the beginning of the issue, are more or less attractive depending on your usage, your budget ... But I do not hold it an unforgettable!

Finally, come to Pyrodigital, one of the major references on the industry.
It is very powerful, but a bit of fatigue. It is becoming older, more major improvements.
The software is formidable, however the party Hardware truly deserves to be improved because it is beginning to be exceeded by the years!

My heart really balance between V. Caballer Efisy and Pyroleda Firing System with Computer Sequencer. Maybe the Fire One if one day they really improve and produce modules much smaller!

The system of Groupe F is a system developed by themselves.
It is a homemade.
Very powerful and interesting, but very heavy logistics and not always reliable.
Efisy Caballer done the same thing.
In fact V. Caballer really expressed the need to have a system as effective as the system of Groupe F, but less complex, more ergonomic and more versatile, and above all is still compatible with their old modules Pyrodigital. Efisy is born of this idea!

Now I will try to explain a little (just) the system of Group F and V. Caballer (it will be difficult because in English, the words are very technical and complex, so I will try to do simple) (Thanks Google translator! LoL)

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Thank you for the illustrations: http://pyroraph.free.fr, Group F, Pirotecnia
Vicente Caballer, http://christopheblanc.free.fr, http://www.feuerwerk.net,
http://www.amigospirotecnia.comhttp://www.pyroworld.nl

On one of the first images you can see the inscription (Badaboum) on one of
Their controllers. That of humour and irony, Groupe F gives a little nickname
Each of its controllers.
Here, it's called 'Badaboum'

Summing up the Groupe F system is composed of many traditional rack firing system whose human impulse on the knobs is replaced by a control computer. (Apple System)
The controllers operate them according to a Master / Slave.

The firing system is a bit complex to program and cumbersome for logistical purposes but it is very easy to install and connect because it works with modules of the system is very simple but very effective.
These modules are called 'Rafaleurs', they operate a bit like sequencers.

The 'Rafaleur' is composed of 10 Shooting line + 1 Bypass Line.
Each electrical impulse received by the rafaleur automatically trigger an initial firing. But the 'rafaleur' stops at the second line of fire and is awaiting a second electrical impulse to take the next and so on.
To do great gusts and very fast after 10 impulses it can operate automatically and arrived at the bypass line, the impetus to pass another module 'rafaleur' and so forth.
In fact it is simply a very powerful simple sequencers that operate autonomously and regular as soon as they receive an electrical pulse.
Thus they are not programmable.

To set all this are the traditional controllers which are programmed by computer Apple Powerbook (with software Medialon Dataton) that give instructions to XLR cable boxes (Splitters) Dataton Trax.
The Dataton Trax are interfaces that will automate various systems to send impulses to the many 'rafaleurs'.
The rafaleurs do not need power, they are simply booted individually before each fireworks show.
It is a system difficult to explain in English, the better to see it work to understand!

The 'rafaleur' is a product manufactured by a small company called ORAILEC French.

Now you wonder, why in Groupe F uses such a system?
You should know that Groupe F has made it a point of honour to them develop their own systems, special effects ...
At the time the pyrodigital was not fast enough to make gusts as intense, fast and too long 'rafals one shot'.
Another thing, they insisted on driving their firing system in Mac OS for reasons of reliability and stability of the Operating System, so they had their own system and their own interface.
Finally, they opted at the time for this system so that it can create simulations (for themselves and customers) and that can both manage a fireworks display, but also their special effects (generators Flames).
Their special effects (home made generators flames) are also driven by the system DATATON Trax and Medialon under Mac OS.
On some shows their system can be synchronized directly by GPS (satellite) so that there have never timing error or bug in their programming! It is a system that is both simple and complex and hard to explain.

Groupe F uses Medialon system, because it is a reference in the entertainment industry to both manage real-time an entire program (both audio, midi system, robots, lighting, DMX system, firing system and the system is Autonomous)
This software is greatly used in museums, parks and recreational attraction, as well as in the entertainment industry because it allows you to manage everything from A to Z.
But it is true that it is complex to implement.

->For Vicente Caballer system, it's still slightly different, but the idea was somewhat the same ...
They could not have a cadence Fuzing similar to the same Groupe F with several Pyrodigital coupled FC3.
They also wanted a simpler system than Groupe F and with a possibility to use HF, Wired or mixed.
Efisy is equipped with a touch-screen color and / or black and white. It works almost like a pyrodigital (automatic, with timecode SMTP modem manual etc ...) except he has a few more opportunities, is more powerful, can be used in HF and with former pyrodigital modules but also control Pyrodigital old controller and vice versa.
The modules and lines can be verified at a distance more easily and the whole rest more reliable.
(The top that before the fall of the US Dollar, Efisy was a little cheaper than pyrodigital!)
According to the latest news V. Caballer had not yet developed software for Efisy, they used the software to Infinity Vision (Pyrodigital), but I heard that they wanted to create their own software (I do not know if c That is already done!)

The modules Efisy work on the same principle that the modules FM3 and FM4 Pyrodigital, except they are more compact and include a protective shell of steel and has a particular pin. Allowing automatic linking One shot Vicente Caballer Pack with a simple connection.
Thus, the preparation of One Shot Pack Caballer are ahead and the fireworks there was just plug pin. There is thus an enormous amount of time on the ground. No need to connect individually ignitiaters.

A few years ago (see photo) Switzerland BUGANO the firm had wanted to change the Pyrodigital by making HF. But the changes have concerned that the modules. The controller was never redrafted.
(As Efisy has its beginning, but still, the system modules HF Bugano still has some problems and delay response time)

To me, Vicente Caballer Efisy truly is the most powerful system on the market do shows pyromusicals!

It's sort of a nice mix Pyrodigital, Fireone, Firemaster and the system of Group F.

Of course, the perfect not exist and efisy could ask for a few changes and improvements.
But it is still an excellent product at a very good price!


Excuse me again for my bad English, I hope you still a little understood what I meant.

Best regards

All the bests

Nico from France
 

propyro2

Registered User
Studata68 wrote The Fireone is economically interesting (especially in terms of wiring cables), but still lacks power and precision. The software is excellent, but the hardware leaves a bit to be desired ...

When you fly with your system the F1 two wire means u can just buy cable at your destination and save on expensive air freight. This could be significant.

How much does the efisy cost? No details on Vincente Caballer's site.

What role does the equipment housed in the black plastic cases play in the efisy system?

I think Firelinx from the US needs consideration.
 

Studata68

Registered User
Hi,

Yes I had paid close attention to Fireone, I had the opportunity to try and
to attend a few shows using it.

The Fireone is really (especially at this time) very interesting for financially
in Europe. He is currently the most complex and the ultimate in
software and also the most economical in terms of wiring.
But I have noticed he was missing a few occasions power and precision and modules (at least for my usage) are far too cumbersome! (I prefer small modules compact 16 lines), but hey I know that you can have modules' tailor 'to Fireone and what can be Fireone has since been upgraded!

At the time pricing system Efisy were a little cheaper than at Pyrodigital. It was a little similar to nearly Fireone. However, today with the U.S. dollar declined against the Euro I think that products are now (unfortunately for the Europeans) the same price as Pyrodigital.
I should be asking current prices, because at the time it was not yet officially marketed!

Regarding the 'Black Boxes Cases' Efisy, it is satellite (optional) to act as a splitter box (thereby increasing the number of lines and orders firing), except that they are HF radio and communicate remotely with other receivers HF Radio. They are therefore both the splitters, boosters and issuers HF, with the aim of saving cable, save energy and increase the possibilities and combinations of fire.
Note that the controller Efisy alone may also issue a HF either to these 'black boxes' or to remote receivers.

By against the big "default" of Efisy is that my knowledge at the time he was content to use the software Infinity Vision (pyrodigital), I do not know if today they are using their own software.

Efisy is much poorer than Fireone in terms of Softwares and is much heavier in terms of logistics which can be a disadvantage.

However it is interesting to use for One Shot Candle because it is very fast, very powerful and very precise, so perfect for pyromusicals shows.
Other interesting option pin DIN for connecting one shot Caballer in workshop.
It can set the whole shop and save time on site by connecting only 1 pin, rather than 16 ignitiater.
So when one uses one shot Caballer (very common in Europe) is a very interesting option this small plug.

In France, very few companies are using computerized firing systems.
2 or 3 companies use Pyrodigital (but not regularly), some
using Efisy modules (but never the complete system of V.Caballer), my
knowledge nobody uses yet Fireone. Some companies use the
Firemaster of Parente, other systems of French at Genetec, and Vegaelec
Arts Frances, some systems "homemade" and Pyroleda or Pyrodigit...
but mostly (unfortunately) very few companies use systems
computer in France.
They use a lot of traditional systems with programmable sequencers
for a few sequences gusts.

The fireworks industry in France is rather badly (we have very nice products and very reliable) but because of security standards very strict, very costly insurance and competition Spanish, Italian and Asian we have almost more manufacturers Fireworks.
150 years ago there were just over a hundred manufacturers, 20 years ago could still have a small effect dozen manufacturers, today there are more than 2 real small manufacturers who make their entire fire fireworks and another that manufactures and modifies a bit. It's very sad to do this!

In contrast the market shows he is doing rather well, there are more and more companies offering pyrotechnic shows (using products Spanish, French, Italians and Asians), so we can expect to see more and more Firing Computer System in France.(I hope!) However very few companies still derive their fireworks manually, only for small fires village in the countryside.

In Spain many companies use Computer Firing Systems (even small companies), they are part of the pioneers in Europe and are references in terms of computerized choreography in Europe.
The Italians are the second users of such systems. The rest of Europe is a little more advanced than France in this area, but there is still not as many shows computerized as in the rest of the world. We are a little late!

It must be said that for many years only the Pyrodigital and Fireone were available and for us Europeans, these systems at the time were far too expensive, too complex to use and difficult for us to import. They were therefore reserve the few large European companies.

Today face the competitive marketplace increasingly difficult, small companies are starting to invest in this type of equipment.
 

Studata68

Registered User
Hi to everyone,

During last 'Nuits de Feu de Chantilly', I had the opportunity to spend
command of Electronic Firing System Vicente Caballer EFISY (M Series).

I would not hesitate to give you more information when I bought and they will I have delivered.

I opted to start: 1 Efisy ECU M Radio HF 4kms/XLR BUS, 6 Receivers
Radio HF / XLR BUS Efisy ECU MR, 128 Efisy Firing Modules SAT MC 16 Cues, 1 Spliter box, Accessories, 1 Software Efisy Firebrush BSP and roadcases, battery and Cables + ShowSIM Pro 3D ...

I put photos when I would have the product.

Compared to pyrodigital, it is a bit more fragile and a little more
delicate and complicated to use, but much more powerful and offers greater
versatility. The product still has some bugs but it's not disturbing to
ensure the display. These are just simple computer error message.
The verification of connections is more efficient and safer than on
Pyrodigital but unfortunately more slower!
Listening is a headphone monitoring. The time code is only SMTPE (not
SFK for the moment)

The modules may have the same address.

The system is completely waterproof, dust and partially protected against fire and other projections.

The range is 4km to HF radio (2kms guaranteed), 2km to XLR (1km guaranteed)

Despite the decline in U.S. Dollars, it remains less expensive than Pyrodigital and it has a better after-sales service. In case of trouble or revision, you lend Caballer EFISY a system to them.

The product is always improved and free update

It is quite 100% compatible with infinity vision Show Director and Firing
Modules FM3 & FM4, however, in these modes is the maximum speed of 1/100s

In configuration 100% Efisy (with software Caballer Firebrush) can push
machine without any loss of power to 1/1000s

Currently they are working on their own 3D simulation software.

The graphical interface color touch is really fun!

It's really a very good system!

In France, the company 'Fêtes & Feux' using 2 or 3 Efisy with a hundred
Firing Module.

Lacroix-Ruggieri uses some modules SAT MC with their Pyrodigital FC3

To begin with, I share on a system, but then if I am satisfied I
to spend 200 or 300 Firing Module + 3 Complete System.

I will use Efisy with a Tablet PC Panasonic Toughbook CF30 Rugged.

Pictures and more information when the order will be increased and delivery
made.

Best Regards

Nico from France
 
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