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Michel_G zei:
Knowing how the general public normally votes, this one has a good chance of becomming the Ninot Indultat for this year. Traditional always scores really well!
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Our favorite one was from Cuba Literato ...... but my guess is that the ninot of Almirante Cadorso will win or Monasteri de Poblet. Curious to find out!
 
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De Mascletà van 1 maart door Pirotecnia Peñarroja - Een klassieker:


Helaas is de video niet zo goed gelukt - had problemen met de autofocus - neem me niet kwalijk :)
 
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fireworksfestivals zei:
Our favorite one was from Cuba Literato ...... but my guess is that the ninot of Almirante Cadorso will win or Monasteri de Poblet. Curious to find out!
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I looked the Ninot from Almirante - Cadarso up on Facebook and it turns out it's the one I mentioned "as a potential winner". It already had a really big chance to win, since this style always scores really well, (and Almirante Cadarso won for something like 5(?) consecutive years now with a ninot from Algarra), but the fact that Manuel Algarra (one of the big names in 'fallas artists world'), unfortunately passed away last year, will likely earn it even more votes!

But we will know for sure soon now!
 
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Amazing photos, I really love the different/unique angle from which you took the photos of the Crida! Would have loved to experience it from that place! (But in reality: if I would have been there, I would have enjoyed the Crida alongside the members of my Falla.)

For a second I thought that it maybe was my falla, which you could see in the green vests in photo 4, but after studying the higher resolution photo on your blog, I'm 99% it isn't. (There are obviously more fallas commisions with the color green, hahaha!)


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So his son though is also called Manuel Algarra? What they've done last year was just so stunning!
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To be honest: I have to admit I didn't know he had a son! (I never looked it up and/or never have read it in the articles 'back then'.)
All I know is that I always loved his realistic style and the insanely high quality work he and his workshop/workers produced! So much attention to detail and so well executed; I really hope that his legacy will remain and his style (and quality of work) will be continued by his son and/or his employes!
 
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fireworksfestivals zei:
Helaas begon de finale van deze Mascleta te vroeg - 3 maart Fallas 2023:

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Thanks for posting your video of this mascletà! It was certainly a remarkable mascletà that will be remembered, all be it for the "wrong" reasons! (We discussed/analysed this mascletà in this topic, although it is in Dutch.)

There is always a chance with a fireworks show that due to ambers (or other burning parts of the fireworks effects) that a certain part of the fireworks will light up unintentionally. With all the lines in a mascletà (and all the fuse that is being used) there is even a bigger chance of parts going off, before they were intended to go. With the mascletà of Pirotecnia Dragón, it seems that from the "middle-part" (the 'regular'/'delayed' lines with truenos), a 'section' gets lighted too early, which results in the pyrotechnic (behind the electrical firing system) pressing too early for the finale to go off. This also seems to be caused by Pirotecnia Dragón connecting all the lines in every 'section' ("retencion") in a unconventional way. Ambers or other burning parts lighting up fireworks of the display ('that were not intended to go off yet'), could always happen!
The thing is, that if 'Dragòn' their mascletà in the 'regular/right/common' way, this ending wouldn't have happened. Yes, it still would have caused a "messy" middle part which would also be "far from perfect", but it would've prevented part of the mascletà still firing after the finale/"terremoto" has ended, which is one of the "worst mistakes" that you could make with a mascletà.

So yes, very sad for the guys from Pirotecnia Dragón, but they could've influnced the final result (and overall feeling) if they had fused/connected the mascletà in the "right" way! (So in the end it's a combination of 'bad luck' and also 'making a mistake', so they are partially to be blamed for the end-result.)

EDIT:
At (roughly) 02:54min at this video, you can see that the left halve of the middle section of the mascleta ("el dessarrollo" or "el cuerpo") lights up too quickly due to some burning/exploding part igniting it at the 3rd 'retencion', while the "right-halve" (at the perspective in the video) only still is at the beginning of the '2nd retencion'. Normally all the lines of every 'retencion' ("section") are connected with a single fuse stretching the whole widt, to (in case of something going "wrong") synchronize them every time, but for some reason Pirotecnia Dragón decided to split the "middle section" in "2 halves" with the connecting fuses and therefore the "right-halve" did not synchronise with the "left-halve" and the pyrotechnic probably focused on the "nearest halve" being finished and pressed the buttons of the firing system "too early", not knowing/seeing that the other halve still had almost a whole section to go, ending up in the situation that the "regular lines" were still going off, while the finale was already gone.

Sorry for the very long explanation! I sometimes get carried away when I start typing and keep on going for a long time! 🤣
 
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It just amazes me how people have such an eye for details! Thank you so much for sharing all this information. This and the rainy Mascleta at Mercado Ruzafa were one of the strangest and saddest displays I got to witness.
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And there are even people with a lot more experience/eye for detail than me!

And in terms of "Rain + Mascletà"..... In general that is not a great combination! What also doesn't help is that type of fuse that they generally use in Valencia. In general they (traditionally) use a "paper tube with a blackpowder "fuse" " (cotton wire 'coated' with "blackpowder" string), where "we" in 'Northern Europe' also tend to use that type of fuse (more or less), but the type 'we' use has a plastic coating/jacket on the outside, making it more resistant against moist and/or wet circumstances. (Although it isn´t an absolute guarantee, but it does "help" a bit!)

And in terms of spotting details: it helps being a member of this forum for almost 18(?) years now and having (some) experience in helping to build/setup fireworksshows myself.

But as you stated in the description of that video (text below this post), there is a lot more to "designing" and setting up a mascletà, than initially meets the eye!
I have to admit that I didn't see/spotted all those details initially, before experiencing a mascletà "in real life", back in 2010. Before I didn't pick up on all those details and rythm changes, but after I experienced my first few mascletas, I was suddenly able to notice a lot more details (including in videos of the years before) in mascletas, that I probably wouldn't have picked up on, if I hadn't experienced a mascletà in real life. I think jyou really have to experience a mascletà in real life and you instantly understand (and are able to "read") a mascletà so much better then that you would ever be able to if you hadn't!

I always try to describe it in this way: you can listen and watch a mascletà on video/film, but to understand a mascletà, you have to EXPERIENCE a mascletà in real life! Only that way you feel what a mascletà is all about! It's so much more than just watching/listening to a fireworks display; a good mascletà just "takes you on a journey" and capitvates you from beginning untill the end!

"We are often asked why we try to attend and experience every 2pm Mascleta. Don't they all sound the same? Why is it even considered a form of art? Well, because it is.

The precision required to fire every single firework component at the right time in tune with all the other parts requires a lot of planning ahead. Additionally, it has to sound right (creating a rhythm and needs to build up), and there should also be a section of surprise.

In this particular case, the finale fired too early, and only the aerials were shooting at the end. When we were standing there, we were extremely confused because it seemed off and wasn't like any Mascleta we had seen before. Later, we learned that the firework wasn't shooting correctly.
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Michel_G zei:
And in terms of "Rain + Mascletà"..... In general that is not a great combination! What also doesn't help is that type of fuse that they generally use in Valencia. In general they (traditionally) use a paper tube with a blackpowder "fuse" (cotton wire 'coated' with "blackpowder" string), where "we" in 'Northern Europe' also tend to use that type of fuse (more or less), but the type 'we' use has a plastic coating/jacket on the outside, making it more resistant against moist and/or wet circumstances. (Although it isn´t an absolute guarantee, but it does "help" a bit!)
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Yesterday I stated the above and today I spotted the photo below on the Facebook account of Pirotecnia Lluch, who shoots today mascletà:

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Pirotecnia Lluch does uses the type of 'quickfuse'/'quickmatch' with a plastic layer on the outside (in this case with a blue outer layer). It absolutely not a guarantee that the mascletà now suddenly is "waterproof", because there are places where water could still get in, but it might just make it a tiny bit more water resistant when there is a little bit of rain.

And as long as the main fuse (from every line) keeps going, then everything will probably be alright in the end and if there are some truenos who didn't go off, you probably don't notice it. It obviously is noticeable if whole parts/sections won't go off!
 
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